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  1. MidianGTX

    MidianGTX Well-Known Member

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    If someone else had said that it would have been a pretty good joke, but I've got a strange, unnerving feeling that tells me you were being serious.
     
  2. Booch138

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    I actually had a neighbor in a bad apartment neighborhood I used to live in drive off 2 people robbing his house with a Samurai sword. No joke they had bats too, and he f*ckin came out yelling like a madman with a sword lmfao. That's hardcore you don't need a gun.
     
  3. MidianGTX

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    We get stories like that over here, only they drive off the burglars by beating them in the face with fists.
     
  4. kcur

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    I do have a katana, actually.

    Also, I don't want a gun for self defense, but I like target shooting.

    It's kind of like bow and arrows, but with a gun.
     
  5. TheProxy

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    Use a Nerf gun.
     
  6. LBG

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    It just doesn't seem natural. I think gays have every right to be together and get married etc, but raising a kid is something else. I suppose, I don't really know much about gays bringing up children, but the only person I know that was raised by a gay couple was pretty confused when he was young and now has quite a severe personality disorder (although that could be unrelated). I don't know, maybe I'm just "old fashioned" but I think every child should have a father and a mother.

    And btw, I totally agree that tight firearm laws/restrictions are a good thing. Here in the UK (and most developed European countries), there is very little gun crime. Even BB guns are illegal to buy here (unless you are part of a airsoft club or the gun is transparent).
     
  7. MidianGTX

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    I'm not fussed on the adoption. The only reason the kids would be confused is because they see other kids with a mother and father, but the more the world begins to accept gay relationships the less of an issue that'll become. Not long ago being raised by a single mother was considered a stigmata... they actually thought it'd turn you gay, these days it's not uncommon in the slightest and the whole turning gay thing turned out to be bullcrap.
     
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    #28 LBG, Aug 5, 2010
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    Yeah, I suppose that's true. Now I've thought about it, it seems like less of an issue than I previously thought.
    I know it's kind of a crappy comparison, but when I used to live down in the SW of England, there was probably about 1 black person for every 1,000 white people. I remember at school (of about 2,000 kids), there were only 3 black children. And growing up as a black kid amongst so many white kids probably felt quite strange. But if the number of black children increased, then it wouldn't feel so strange.

    And as far as growing up and learning from your parents goes, it's a bit of a grey area. Some research says that gay adoption allows the child to grow up fine and other research shows the complete opposite. I suppose it depends on what the parents are like. I know some very nice lesbians who I think could raise a child with no problems, however I also know some gays that wouldn't do so well. Of course you get good and bad straight parents too, but without meaning to sound homophobic in any way, I think that there are probably more gay couples that would have problems raising children then there are straight couples.
     
  9. Duke Floss

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    Weed should be legal, as should psychedelics - narcotics should be decriminalized and medicalized. Psychedelics should be studied - there is vast potential for an area of medicine that has long been taboo.

    There is no reason any substance should be illegal - the very fact of making a substance illegal will lead to a demand for it and crimes will take because of it.

    I am not recommending that people should legally be able to buy heroin or narcotics OTC - however there should not be a criminal element associated to the use of them.
     
  10. There's absolutely nothing wrong with gays adopting. In fact, a number of studies have shown that children brought up in a gay household tend to be more well-adjusted and behaved. There are exceptions of course, just like everywhere, but generally speaking gay parents, being more open minded pretty much by definition raise their children to be more accepting of others, especially those are different from whatever society says the status quo is.

    As to the question of it being unnatural ... well, that's debatable, but even going with the belief that it is, so is anal sex, Froot Loops and whatever that thing generating random electrical impulses in Glenn Beck's head is. And remember: One of those used to be illegal. (And one of them should be.)
     
  11. CDubby94

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    Those drugs hurt way too many people to be decriminalized.
     
  12. Psychedelics have great potential to cause someone to become a danger to themselves or others. "Bad trips" are incredibly common, and far more than enough people have died or have been killed because of them to even consider decriminalizing them. There are very good reasons many of those drugs are illegal, and it pretty well always has to do with the dangers and the crimes associated with them. I can't even begin to contemplate anything other than simple weed being decriminalized.
     
  13. SkyMuffin

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    translation: I have based my entire view on this topic on one single incident/experience in my life.

    so if an asian guy mugs you tomorrow, then all asians are bad, amirite?

    p.s.: you should really learn something about divorce rates. there are tons of kids who grew up in single or untraditional parent households, and they are just fine.
     
  14. Duke Floss

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    #34 Duke Floss, Aug 5, 2010
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    If you want to fix the problem you have to take the criminal element out of it - and there has to be proper education.

    I agree - psychedelics can be misused - in most cases it's by people who have very little education in what it is. That being said the activity is far from criminal - as drinking heavy can lead to the same delirious outcome.

    In fact there has been very little proper education about drugs in our society in general - most people I know don't even realize what the effects of tylenol are. This is a problem. To make something illegal because there is no real understanding of it or because of laws put in place long ago for reasons not applicable in this day & age - that is a problem as well.

    Although I don't advocate use of anything - I will say this Steve Jobs himself experimented with psychedelics and relates some of his ideas back to it. I am not saying that everybody who tries it will make incredible technology, but to completely turn a blind eye to something that has had effect on many scientists, artists, and everyday people is a crime.

    Edit - when I say legalized I don't mean to be sold as general product to the masses. Just like I don't think if weed were legalized that it should be sold in general stores. There is a market for such things, and this is where it should take place - where the people selling it or providing a service can offer experienced education.
     
  15. Hard drugs aren't illegal because there is a lack of education. They're illegal because we know all too well what their effects are, because we see them on the streets all the time. It's not even a matter of misuse. Psychedellics are unpredictable and how they effect someone depends very much on that someone's disposition, and the strength and formula of the drug. You could have pleasant hallucinations, you could have incredibly frightening ones, you could experience a psychotic break. People sit quietly staring into infinity at the TV snow, or they could go psycho and jump out a sixth story window so their deaths or they could think their best friend is trying to eat their limbs. No amount of education can predict what will happen, and that's more than enough reason to keep them illegal.

    But it isn't just what people do on drugs. It's what people do for drugs. Apart from acid, hard drugs are incredibly addictive, and almost every time will drive addicted users to crime in order to get more to feed that addiction. No amount of education will change that, either.

    The fact is, for the addictive drugs, you can't remove the criminal element, and for psychedelics, you can't predict them. For these reasons they are and should always remain illegal.

    Alcohol is a poor comparison. Yes, people do really stupid things when drunk, sometimes hurting themselves or others in their drunken ineptitude, but for the most part, people wasted on booze are far too uncoordinated to commit deliberate crimes (apart from petty vandalism or poor attempts at shoplifting), and people high on weed are too lethargic to bother.
     
  16. Duke Floss

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    #36 Duke Floss, Aug 5, 2010
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    rhetoric - people on the streets, take the criminal element out and these people can choose to get healthy if they want to or work regular jobs and get their fix with as much safety as an alcoholic has.

    I agree - psychedelics can be unpredictable. But they could be predictable in the hands of an organization whose sole purpose is for the study, and education of these compounds.

    Weed does not make you lethargic there are many examples of people who smoke weed and are athletes, artists, doctors, etc. - That is a stereotype.

    Take the criminal element out of it. The war on drugs is sad & laughable and caused much trouble for everyone involved on both sides.

    An addict would not turn to crime if he could affordably feed his addiction, or god forbid be able to ask for help to get off his addiction. This is proven by the millions of practicing alcoholics in the world.

    Again alcohol is no different - it is a substance that has been chronically abused by a large section of the world population. When it was illegal it lead to the same crimes most addicts go to this day, and even now there is crime that is caused because of alcohol although not as much of the same hard crime. Not to mention broken families, post traumatic stress associated with such - all things that can be related to almost any other known abuse.

    We have to turn from condemnation and move towards understanding.
     
  17. Registeel

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    Does Nippy live in California? If so, he's probably over the bloody moon.

    And eww.. Gay Marriage makes me vomit. Unless it's 2 woman*


    *Woman must have long hair or it is disgusting*
     
  18. kcur

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    I hope you're just trolling.

    I don't see how discriminating gays is different than discriminating race or religion.
     
  19. MidianGTX

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    #39 MidianGTX, Aug 5, 2010
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    It's alright, he's like minus 13 years old or something. One day he'll grow up and realise what a dick he was.

    I'm with Mindfield on the drugs thing. Lots of people already are educated about drugs, but the education hasn't stopped them doing it. Legalizing it would only help people kill themselves faster, plus they'd be more inclined to think of it as morally and socially acceptable and share it among friends. Then crime would increase as everyone struggles to gather enough money to fuel their addiction, children would get easier access to lethal substances, addicts would no longer be required to attend rehab for their crimes... the list goes on.
     
  20. Registeel

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    Hey people, it's my opinion. It's the internet, there's a thing called free speech.

    I just don't think it's a nice thing. It's quite feral really, in my opinion. I have nothing against them but I imagine what they might do. I lost my appetite.

    And Midian, you really are the sole pinnacle on why I would consider leaving this forum.

    Oh cause I won't though. I love you babe.
     

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