STOP with the game character cross-overs!!!

Discussion in 'General Game Discussion and Questions' started by Dark NRG, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. maikelg

    maikelg Well-Known Member

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    I agree with the first poster. Those Cross-overs are stupid and unnecessary. Dooldle jump really does not belong in the Pocket God island theme, pygmies do not belong in the creeps and even though I think Enviro-bear could fit into Minigore's forest theme, Lizzie from Sway does not. I rather have the developers focus on their own games. Eviro-bear and Lizzie were already announced for Minigore before the first update is out! Where are the crazy cooks and lumberjacks from Minigore's splash screen? Nowhere, but still we get other games' characters first and that's just stupid. I'm sure Pocket God could think of a lot more, funnier updates without including other games' characters or gameplay.
     
  2. MidianGTX

    MidianGTX Well-Known Member

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    You can't be hatin' on Lizzy! She never hurt anyone, and it's her first outing so give her a break. To be honest most people don't give a damn whether or not the characters "fit into the theme", it's just cool to get a cameo, and as Hodapp said, most of them are optional or hidden easter eggs. The only ones I'm really sick of are the ones that seem to try and get a new cameo in about once a week, plain overexposure.
     
  3. maikelg

    maikelg Well-Known Member

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    I love Lizzie, I just don't like all of those stupid cross-overs. Pocket God in Harbor master? Really? More Pocket God in the Creeps' nightmares? There are waaay too many crossovers recently. Maybe an easter egg once or twice would be fun but now about every other game is cross-breeding with another game. It's also not for fun anymore, its just marketing strategy.
     
  4. MidianGTX

    MidianGTX Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but I still feel Minigore makes more sense. Having pygmy boats in Harbor Master... makes zero sense. Doodle Jump towers in The Creeps... makes zero sense. Minigore is at least logical in how it uses the characters, it doesn't turn them into boats or turrets, they stay as they were... living breathing* characters.



    *minus the living and the breathing.
     
  5. iStephen

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    i love these crossovers. especially the Doodle Jump one.

    It's all personal preference.
     
  6. maikelg

    maikelg Well-Known Member

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    That's what I mean. Most of the time it makes absolutely no sense at all and it just distracts from the game. A bear in the forest I can see (but even then I rather see him as an enemy in the game), a big girl lizzard not. Characters just fit best in their own environment. Especially Minigore is too fast with using cross-overs with soo many great ideas for updates on the shelf.
     
  7. GodSon

    GodSon Well-Known Member

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    There is always going to be a Hater in the crowd. I mean come on your complaining about a game(s) getting better over time and being creative with new idea's? Looks like someone had a little to much Haterade today...
    :confused:
     
  8. maikelg

    maikelg Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a hater, but the games are really not getting any better by using cross-overs from other games. I truly believe that the game developers can do much better without using each others characters/gameplay. Pygmie boats are silly and if you like to play a Harbor Master-like game, just play Harbor Master or Flight Control. There is no need to put it in Pocket God too.
     
  9. GodSon

    GodSon Well-Known Member

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    Did Hodapp not explain it good enough on page 1?
     
  10. MidianGTX

    MidianGTX Well-Known Member

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    Furries in the forest don't make sense in the first place, they don't exist. I don't see how a lizard could really detract from the incredible (sarcasm) reality of the game. The whole Minigore theme is alien and mythical, magical and nonsensical. As long as Lizzy doesn't turn into a spaceship I think we'll be able to suspend our disbelief just enough to get by.
     
  11. maikelg

    maikelg Well-Known Member

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    No, what Hodapp said doesn't make a difference at all. The first cross-over was cute, the second was ok and now it just gets annoying. I get that you don't have to use the cross-overs in the games and that most of them are hidden extra's, the annoying thing is that all these crossovers are just being used as a marketing tool and not to improve gameplay.
     
  12. GodSon

    GodSon Well-Known Member

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    Making money is a way of life. They do what they have to do to eat. ;)

    I think your in the 0.1% that views it that way.
     
  13. SoCal_Sponger

    SoCal_Sponger Well-Known Member

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    I agree with him, especially with this:
    Look at The Creeps, the Pocket God and Doodle Jump update did nothing to improve the gameplay, it was there just for the marketing.
     
  14. maikelg

    maikelg Well-Known Member

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    I know that's how it works and that that's probably also why there are so many cross-overs at the moment, I'm just saying that it's not the most creative way of doing it. In fact it's creative lazyness. They could also improve their own games with more features of their own.
     
  15. MidianGTX

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    But then on the flipside... if they did change the gameplay, the people who aren't interested in them would then feel inclined to use them just for the enhancements... and they wouldn't be optional/easter eggs anymore. So you'd just be annoying a different group of people.
     
  16. maikelg

    maikelg Well-Known Member

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    True, but new things shouldn't change the gameplay, but add to the gameplay. And the cross-overs in most cases didn't add anything that didn't excist yet.
     
  17. Will090

    Will090 Well-Known Member

    I like cross-overs when they are incorporated well to the game and aren't just marketing gimmicks. Like pocket god Pygmy in doodle jump is good because it gives you choice of a character fits in the game. But harbor master and doodle jump in pocket god and pocket god in harbor master and the creeps are just gimmicks to to get paid or to pay back the other developer for crossing over with you. I support the cross overs inminigore because they give you more than just John gore and look like they will be implemented very good and will all have their own powers
     
  18. Dark NRG

    Dark NRG Well-Known Member

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    Wow, this got busy!

    Again, as Hodapp said and some of you reiterated, you can turn it off, and I DO have it turned on in The Creeps. DoodleJump doesn't do it for me like Ooga in The Creeps, tho. So, apples and oranges, even tho you can turn off the function, and given it may be a "survival" strategy for indie developers, I agree it can get pretty silly as some imaginative ideas you guys have had :p

    Are these free exchanges?
    Are the devs with the established characters charging or just being a "good guy" favor to the dev with an up and coming app?
    Why don't these small devs just unionize into one big, decentralized developer to go up against EA, Chillingo, etc? Then we could have Galactic Gunner Aussie voices in 4x4, or John in Minigore being the Devil in Gold Keepers a la, "GET OFF MY LEG!!!"
    If it doesn't effect the price, and I can turn it off, that's fine.
    But I think it should: 1. make some practical sense. Most games have their own innate cohesion and theme, to depart from that is to dilute your own franshise. 2. I just will lose respect for Minigore if Jon can become DoodleJump shooting furries like a tower in the Creeps. Speaking of which:

    Why not a game with 5 or more crossovers in their own convoluted game???


    @TheBeastlyNinja: did you read the devs interview? When asked if in a movie version of Minigore, who would play John, they replied "John Goodman, no question".

    @ Alichan76: I love the idea of Doom meets Zen Bound, wrapping zombies, and renaming it Zom Bound. You're a GENIUS :eek: lol
     
  19. Alichan76

    Alichan76 Well-Known Member

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    #40 Alichan76, Aug 19, 2009
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    Good to see that great minds think alike;) Well, I guess that review technically got there before me it seems. Oh well, patent idea out the window:( But the difference is, I (and Dark NRG apparently:)) think it's a good idea, whereas Pocket Gamer are in the 'maybe not...' camp. Go on Secret Exit, you know you want to...










    Ps. I thought my bandages spin on it was better;)
     

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