The mystery of English

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Your or you're

  1. Your welcome

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  2. You're welcome

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  1. Random_Guy

    Random_Guy Well-Known Member

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    Australia, mate!
    I am confused. :confused: Is it 'Your Welcome' or 'You're Welcome'?
     
  2. The Bat Outta Hell

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    Was a thread necessary?
     
  3. ASB

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    You're welcome, i.e. you are welcome.
     
  4. Random_Guy

    Random_Guy Well-Known Member

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    Australia, mate!
    You are welcome doesn't really make sense though, as it should be you are welcomed.
     
  5. starjimstar

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    In the past tense it could be; "you were welcomed."
     
  6. Kamazar

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    In present tense, you are stupid. jk, I once asked if... well, I forget exactly what it was. Something along the lines of "who's" and "that's", and what I thought was right was actually wrong. Happens to the best of us.
     
  7. design219

    design219 Well-Known Member

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    I've always heard that English was a tough language to learn. I'm glad it's not my second language.

    Of course, a great many of us with English as a first language still don't handle it very well.
     
  8. Spotlight

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    I'm surprised how many English native speakers find it hard to understand the difference between "your" and "you're".

    This is very basic. Isn't it?
     
  9. Vester

    Vester Well-Known Member

    You're is just a combo of you and are. Lol one person said your, I hope English isn't their first language...
     
  10. The Rules of the Apostrophe:

    The apostrophe is one of the most misunderstood punctuation marks of the English language so the poor thing gets misused all over the place. Here's a handy-dandy guide to its use. I'll try to simplify as much as possible, but apostrophe use can be confusing at the best of times, so bear with me.

    Plural
    This is where you're referring to multiple nouns or pronouns. You don't use apostrophes here.

    Right: His, yours, The Andersons, theirs, balls, ostriches
    Wrong: You'res, The Anderson's (only correct if their last name is "Anderson" and you're referring to something that belongs to them), their's, ball's (only correct if you're referring to something that belongs to "ball"), ostrich's (again, only correct if you're referring to something that belongs to "ostrich.")

    Possessive
    This is where you're referring to something that belongs to, or is a part of, someone or something.

    Right: John's shoes, that thing's fur, New York's Times Square
    Wrong: Johns shoes, that things fur, New Yorks Times Square

    Plural Possessive and Nouns Ending in S
    Here's where it starts getting tricky because you're combining two states. Let's say you've got a family whose last name is Andrews. They have a dog. You want to refer to their dog. If you use "The Andrew's Dog" then you're saying their last name is "Andrew" because the apostrophe-S here makes "Andrew" plural, not "Andrews." So what do you do? As with any noun that ends with S, put the apostrophe at the end, like so:

    The Andrews' dog has a big head.

    But what if you want to refer to something belonging to a group of the same things? Let's say you've got a bunch of lanterns whose wicks need replacing. You could say:

    The wicks in those lanterns needs replacing.

    Or, you could say:

    Those lanterns' wicks need replacing.

    Again, we've placed the apostrophe at the end; this is the plural possessive case.

    Contractions
    This is when you combine a noun or pronoun with "is," "has," "have," or "are" or "not."

    Pronouns: He's (he has) got a big head; He's (he is) very large; We're (we are) going to the movies; You've (you have) been naughty
    Nouns: New York's (New York is) a busy place; John's (John has) got a big dog; John would've (would have) won if he hadn't sat on the ball; That isn't (is not) what I said; You aren't (are not) Dikembe Mutombo!

    Note that a contraction involving "are" is almost always used exclusively with "we" or "you."

    Numbers, Letters and Acronyms
    Want to refer to a specific time period, like the 1980s? Don't use an apostrophe. Want to refer to something by its time period, like a song, such as 1984's Jump by Van Halen? Do use an apostrophe.

    How about acronyms? Treat them just like nouns. FEMA's management problems (possessive, use an apostrophe), multiple IEDs (plural, don't use an apostrophe).

    But wait! What if pluralizing the acronym would make it ambiguous? If I said "Use the T4s" am I referring to something called a T4s, or am I referring to more than one T4? In this case, do use an apostrophe and say "Use the T4's". Sure, it could be confused with the possessive form, but context is everything. If I just say "Use the T4's" and leave it at that, I'm clearly referring to more than one T4. If I say "Use the T4's keypad" then obviously I'm referring to a keypad that is a part of a machine called a T4.

    Clear as mud? Good. I may have forgotten a thing or two but this should give you the important bits.
     
  11. MidianGTX

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    Topic is fail. "You are welcome" makes perfect sense, the only reason it might sound odd is because you never hear it or see it written, due to people being smart enough to write "you're" instead.
     
  12. design219

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    I don't know... I think the "welcome" part is a bit weird. I mean, welcome usually means a greeting, "I'm glad you are here, come in."

    To say "You are welcome" after someone says "Thank you" doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
     
  13. drelbs

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    If I gave you a "Welcome" then I could refer to it as your "Welcome" (as opposed to my "Welcome" ;))

    "Your welcome of "Greetings, programs!" is really out of date - maybe you should change it to "Smurf you, pal!""
     
  14. d1

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    Yep, very basic. But there's always people who find it complicated.
     
  15. MidianGTX

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    Using it after being thanked is pretty much just an extension of it's original use which would be welcoming someone, as in "you are welcome to enter my home".

    Also responding to "thank you" with "you're welcome" is supposed to imply that they are welcome to query you a second time as you're more than happy to assist them.
     
  16. Achy

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    It's sad that native speakers suck at spelling. I, being english my second language, can spell way better than most native speakers (not to sound cocky). Is it the school system's fault? Or is it due to how much slang there is? That's something I haven't been able to figure out myself.
     
  17. d1

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    Lol that's a little hypocritical wouldn't you say?
     
  18. Random_Guy

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    Australia, mate!
    Yes, yes I would.
     
  19. Electric_Shaman

    Electric_Shaman Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly hypocritical, more just that his spelling may be good (or his spellchecker more like), but his grammar sucks.

    Grammar > spelling, especially a glaring error like he made

    But to answer his question, I would attribute it to spellcheckers. It makes people lazy to learn the right spelling.
    And seeing as he's probably basing his opinion on internet postings, you have to take typos into account too, which makes it nigh impossible to really judge someone's spelling
     

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