bleh thats winrar who cares bout them they dont have fun games pirate it all you like you heathen i put a smiley face when i call somebody a name so it makes it alright
What do you guys do? I understand the cause but do you actually do anything or is it just to show off a personal "standpoint". (i dont know the word for it =) )
who the hell cares? if you don't pay for it, you shouldn't be able to play it. why does it have to get any deeper than that? seriously. answer me that. i'm in guys.
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I started the group because so many developers post here, and I love this aspect of iDevice gaming. It's rare to talk one-on-one with the creators of games you enjoy playing so much. I see them talk about the passion, sleepless nights, testing, re-testing, finally to see it launched into the app store. It just really started to bother me thinking that so many people (some of whom post here and have the nerve to complain about games they've stolen) steal games from these people who worked so hard. I had no illusion that one group on one forum was going to make any real change, but I happen to think that this is the premier app forum by a mile, apparantly a lot of developers agree, so I thought it would be good for them to know that many people on this forum appreciate their hard work, and pledge never to use cracked apps. That's it, nothing more, nothing less for me personally. But I can tell you that I think it's awesome that this group has over 130 members in only 3 days. I hope that does send a message to the developers.
Just the number of posters in this forum that seem to be bothered by a few people standing up against piracy shows how much it needs to be said. Look at the bias in certain posters; you can easily tell who has a jailbroken device full of stolen apps... I doubt this will change the minds of the vocal ones willing to out themselves in a public forum in defense of piracy but maybe the more reasonable people will read this and think twice before they steal their next app.
You just have to wonder about somebody that will commit a felony for 5 bucks... or even a buck. That's crackhead-level crime.
I think that's very well said Sizzla, +1. At the end of the day, piracy is something hard to fight. But I do hope that if nothing else, some devs take heart at the fact that a lot of us are pulling for them, standing up for them, and do not put up with people that crack/steal/pirate apps- no matter what the argument or how you slice it. 130 members in 3 days is a great sign and I hope it keeps growing. Sizzla, my sincere thanks for starting this group. It's the right thing to do, and much respect for spreading the awareness. I think your above statement could almost be like the group's 'charter'.
Lol i didnt even know it existed "cracked" iphoneapps. =) Jailbreak ive heard of but i dont really know what it is.
Well, not so much that as that the offer of my girlfriend taking me to a burlesque show was for some reason more attractive than trying to explain simple English to a bunch of dumbass American teens. Still, you've had a good 18 hours or so to blow my case out of the water, so let's see what you've come up with. Er, yes. Anyone can label anyone as anything. I can label you as a rapist if I want. (YOU'RE A RAPIST! There, I just did.) It doesn't suddenly prove you've ever raped anyone, though. Oh, and plagiarism isn't "covered by copyright law". There is NO copyright on ideas. In some cases it's covered by patent law, though. See, at least one person here can be bothered to research stuff for themselves. And fair play, that does seem to be one case in one state of people being charged with a form of theft for a copyright-infringement case. They haven't been found guilty, so we can't say that it was a valid charge, but it's certainly a case, so I'll concede that there is one jurisdiction covering roughly 1.2% of the world's population where copyright infringement MIGHT be officially considered theft, leaving just 98.8% of the world where it isn't. I asked for three examples and we're still two short, but it's a start. You got me fair and square on that one, CandyNJ66. Good work. Apart from that, all we appear to have to show for your 18 hours is the usual circle-jerk of the usual suspects screaming about how they've won the argument, without actually posting an argument other than "I think this and therefore I have proved it LOLZ PWNED J00!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!1!!!!1". I posted a link to the only ACTUAL research that's ever been done, by a software developer/publisher, which appears to show that 999 out of every 1000 pirates wouldn't have bought the game if they hadn't pirated it. The silence in response has been deafening. Which is funny, because that research pretty much proves that piracy ISN'T theft - even using your wildly wrong definition of the term - because the publisher HASN'T been deprived of any money they would otherwise have had, and so has had nothing stolen from them. Any statement which is true 999 times out of 1000 is true, kids. Get over it. And one last thing. I don't have a jailbroken iPod. I've had my iPod for about five months, and in that time I've bought 459 apps, at a cost of hundreds of dollars. 20 years of investigating and researching the subject of piracy has led me to the absolutely certain belief that for the normal games market (ie 360, Wii, DS, PSP, PC whatever), the net effect of piracy is at worst zero and at best significantly beneficial, and as such I don't give a damn about it. However, I absolutely loathe iPod piracy, because the App Store business model blows every justification for piracy out of the water. (Or at least, it does until idiots like you lot get your way and app prices start at $5.99.) I've never even contemplated jailbreaking my iPod and pirating games. But every single word I read from pompous, self-righteous, arrogant, astonishingly-ignorant know-nothings like your little boy-scout group makes me want to do it more and more and more.
Looks like you only go after facts and statements and fail to understand the crux of it. 999 out of 1000 wouldnt have bought the game might be true. Did you try and understand why or how?? Thats coz if one game isnt available for free, they could easily spend their time with something else choosing from 1000s of other games available as pirated ones. A real research would be if you removed piracy completely as an option. I can guarantee you there`ll be atleast a 5% conversion rate. And I`m being really modest here. So your one and only ACTUAL research is flawed IMHO. Calling others idiot and writing long posts wont make your point better than others.
I don't give a shit why or how. What does that have to do with anything? The argument is whether the developer loses money through piracy, ie would people with pirate copies otherwise have bought the game, and the research - conducted by a developer who would want to prove that they would have - appears to prove the opposite. Have you even a SHRED of awareness as to what an absurdly, laughably stupid pair of statements that is? On what evidence are you basing this "guarantee"? Yeah, I know, it really tires poor Americans out trying to fit more that two sentences into their tiny little attention spans. Sorry about that, but it's kinda hard to construct a coherent, cohesive argument if you're limiting yourself to 20 words of illiterate gibberish and feel the need to apologise if you go over five lines. Luckily, constructing a coherent, cohesive argument isn't something most people here seem to feel any need to do.
Spungo, your constant ignorant America bashing just reveals your pathetic inferiority complex. I always assumed your Napoleon routine was due to your obviously tiny...well, you know. It appears, however, that it's not solely a Freudian situation. Hush now, little Spungo, no big nasty American is going to fly over and bomb your pathetic little hovel back to the Stone Ages from whence it came.
Seriously? I really doubt so. THe thread`s been through everything he`s saying. You can start over from the first post if re-reading the same stuff is what you like. He`s here just for the arguments sake IMO as he doesnt really seem to care about either piracy or the devs.
What's the matter, dear? You really don't seem to have got the hang of operating that "Ignore" button awfully well. Two syllables too hard for you to understand, or did your attention span just last as far as "Ig" before you saw something shiny?
