Aww, that's sweet. Speaking from personal experience, drawing more attention to an issue like this will likely have the opposite effect on a number of people.
Yeah they're called adolescent's. Point is a lot of the negative stigma went away from piracy when everyone started downloading free music. It wasn't really looked down on. We are trying to let people know, that visit this forum, that pirating apps is looked down on/ Plus, we are also trying to explain to people that these people that are being stolen from aren't millionaires like some of the people that get their music stolen. They are average Joe's struggling to make a living developing on the appstore, and they are real people with families, bills, etc.
Hi, I do not think that those who pirate care diddly about whether they take money from the developer. They are only about themselves and the rationale of free trials not being allowed is a bunch of BS. If it is free, or the ability to get it for free is there, some people will do all they can to be the one taking advantage. As has been mentioned, those who pirate apps do not go and buy the app if they like it, they just continue to share it, and any updates with other pirates. Unfortunately, this is looked at as a challenge and it will continue to happen. There is no age thing where it is just kids doing this, it is an all age thing because people feel entitled to free stuff. It is just more noticable and happens more now as a result of the bad economic times. I am glad it is being discussed and I hope it does deter a few people but most pirates jst scoff and rationalize their poor choice to steal from developers. David
If you say so. Fixed. I agree that developers should be supported, which is why I've spent more than $800 on apps since the App Store opened last year. I've also grown tired of throwing my money away on games/apps with crappy control schemes, sloppy production, etc. Which is why I'd love to see Apple introduce some kind of trial period system for ALL apps. Since that hasn't happened yet, and since I've thrown away lots of hard-earned cash on steaming-pile-of-****-apps, I'm willing to explore other options.
Well there you go. I guess that explains your viewpoint... so why do you care why we have a group to begin with? This also explains your obsessive usage of: It makes you seem so smart and clever
Obsessive usage of : rolleyes : ? I used one. How is that "obsessive"? As for the group, I was just wondering aloud how having a group like this could actually help the situation ... This is a forum for discussion, is it not?
There is no excuse for Piracy. Most of the apps have their lite versions. And if some app doesnt then steer clear of it. Thats not an excuse to pirate. And btw, reporting your post to the mods. Thats the tolerance level here for pirates. If you`re a pirate, you dont belong here.
So here's the crux. Since you haven't done due dilligence and researched some of these apps (most of which you probably spent less than 5 dollars on) you're willing to "explore other options". What a lovely way to say, "I've been burned on some impulse buys, so I feel justified in stealing." if this is your morality, then so be it, but I think it's pretty lax.
i guarantee at LEAST 50% of group membes have pirated an app or a bootleg movie or a song off napstar...or got a burned copy of a cd from a friend....the list goes on
Fixed. I still believe that Apple needs a new trial period policy. If you disagree, that's fine. That's certainly your prerogative, but I missed the part where I said I was a pirate. I found the part where I said that I had spent more on apps than most of the other members here, and where I said that I was 'willing to explore other options,' but I can't seem to find where I said I was a pirate. In fact, I do not pirate App Store apps. Careful with your assumptions.
That's probably not too far off. I used to be a total pirate until 2000, when I met one of the guys that worked on Battlezone II, my most favoritest game ever, and heard about what they went through to create it. Luckily I had bought that game (2 copies, I liked it so much), so I didn't curl up and die right there. He even autographed the CDs for me. Now that *I* am the guy spending 70 hours a week coding, wondering where the next rent check will come from, I've not only quit stealing, I'm RABIDLY anti-piracy I'll doubtless get robbed blind, but there's some consolation... after this I will have done penance for my previous actions, and can be righteous in my anger against pirates. At that point I hope to have hacked the defense grid, and will be able to call in airstrikes on their GPS coordinates. Everybody is free to make their own decisions, but if you're gonna steal, don't pretend you're not a thief. If you steal 10 dollar games, it isn't really all that gangsta, either. It's just kind of sad... like shoplifting from the Salvation Army store.
Nope, still assumptions. In my personal experience, people that I know (friends, coworkers, family, acquaintances) have been driven to inquire about various forms of piracy after after attention has been drawn to it in the media. Napster, Bittorrent, and now App Store stuff. I've personally experienced this. They ask me because I'm the computer geek friend. Personal experience. Understand? Exploring other options doesn't necessarily mean piracy. There are other platforms, you know.
Nice save. No, actually it wasn't. You can try to pretend that your post meant something other than what 99 out of 100 people would have gleaned from it, but don't insult our intelligence. You know what you meant, and we know what you meant, no matter how you scramble. And before you accuse others of assumptions, I doubt very highly that you have spent more on apps than the majority (of adults at least) who post here. THAT'S an assumption.
How selective of you. I guess you simply overlooked the part where I said explicitly I DON'T PIRATE APPS. Now, which assumption would you be referring to here? The assumption that most board members have probably spent less than $800 on apps since the App Store opened, or the assumption that I'm wrong?
You don't pirate apps YET. Apparantly you're open to options. As to the assumption, it's both. I think most adult, regular posters here have spent more than 800 dollars, and therefore, I think you're wrong. Look, no one here is buying what you're selling. You're just the latest to come on this thread pontificating about how this group is trying to be something it's not, and that piracy in the app store may be justified becuase you were unhappy with your $.99 fart app. Everyone who's tried that so far has sounded as banal as you are starting to. Don't back away from what you've been smirkingly suggesting. Own it...and choose to accept that this is the thinking of people who try to justify their theft or don't. Read through the thread if you like. You're not saying anything new.
Whatever reasons people use to justify piracy aside, my original question still remains. In what way does this group do anything at all, in any way whatsoever, to prevent App Store piracy? For that matter, what tangible things have any of its members done to stop piracy?
