Sorry to repeat something that I've already posted earlier on this thread, but I think it kind of answers your question:
Your question has been answered in multiple ways. Click on the group link and read what the mission statement says if you want it answered in yet another way. As to what tangible thing I've done to stop piracy: I don't pirate. If everyone followed this, the problem would be solved
But doesn't the very existence of this group also send the message that many people DO pirate apps? Otherwise, why would the group even exist?
What's your point? No one is trying to say piracy doesn't exist. As long as there are people with lax morals there will be piracy. I don't get why people such as youself seem to begrudge this group who is only trying to show support to developers. The same developers that we interact with here on a regular basis. It's precisely because piracy exists that I was compelled to start the group, so that developers would know that many of us here value their work and promise to compensate them for their work. What's the big problem with that unless you're trying to justify stealing? I just don't get it.
Sure, but that's a known fact to anyone with a brain. The point of the group is to suggest that there's also a sizable community who disapprove of the practice. -- it's not just developers complaining about lost revenues.
I just joined the group, though I'm not sure what exactly that accomplishes. I suspect it will accomplish nothing at all. But hey, you've got yourself another member, so that's gotta feel good! I have a feeling that's the main function of the group, anyway - making yourselves feel better, even though in reality you've done nothing tangible at all to stop piracy (besides not pirating yourselves, which apparently you'd be doing even without the group) ...
Why join a group with a goal you obviously don't ascribe to? Your sarcastic tone just makes you look petty and small. People have been legitimately trying to answer your questions, and you reply with sarcasm. Bravo. You must be so proud. (See, I can be sarcastic too).
That making a group at TA accomplishes absolutely nothing. Heck, even I joined the group - all I did was click a button. It didn't help any developers in any way whatsoever, that I'm aware of. I'll bet they get the same message when people buy their apps. The difference between the "Buy Now" button and the "Join this group" button is that only one of then actually helps developers.
Here's one thing that group members do: all of us report posts with links to pirate sites as soon as they come to our attention, so that the mods can delete them. Touch Arcade is one of the most (if not the most) popular sites dealing with iPlatform gaming, and we're doing our part to keep it from becoming an information exchange for pirates. Will that make a big difference? Most likely, no. But it's something.
I said I wouldn't converse with you anymore but I really don't understand why you joined the group. I get that you are trying to poke fun at us.. but so you know, your joining the group is not going to keep any of us up at night.. but I still don't understand why. I had more respect for you when you were being honest. Once you start backtracking and trying to cover up your previous statements you just look foolish. You're going to have to be like the TAAP waterboy or something
Actually, that sounds like something that really could help quite a bit. But what does reporting posts have to do with being a member of this group? Nope. That would imply that there were actual responsibilities (or purpose, even!) associated with being a group member.
There you go winking at me again. See I knew you were fond of :winking: and :rolling eyes: Just for you, we could amend the charter and add something about keeping non-pirates hydrated. I'm a long way from Japan so make sure you pirate enough games to keep you busy for the long plane-ride over
Well, I guess it reminds me that I'm not the only one doing all the reporting. Also, taking that responsibility as a group makes the reporting more effective -- fewer pirate posts fall through the cracks.
What exactly are you arguing against? Do you even know any more? I have an idea, why don't you go punch a couple Girlscouts in the face and tell them that selling cookies doesn't do them any good? Whether or not the group has 3 members or 30,000 doesn't even matter. It is a gesture and a show of appreciation toward developers. I appreciate it, even if nobody else does. The fact that you joined the group doesn't prove anything except that you have all the wit and manners of a basket of straw, only less intelligent.
Absolutely. That this group serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever (other than to make its members feel good about themselves). But those Girls Scouts are actually accomplishing something. They're working hard, making money for whatever it is they need money for. They're actually DOING something. Being a member of this group, on the other hand, requires simply clicking a button. Can you not see the difference? I'll bet those developers would love to see you show your appreciation by purchasing their apps. Now THAT is a way to actually show your support, in a real and tangible way. And yet I've been able to express myself without resorting to childish personal attacks and name-calling. Irony at its best.
My goodness, what a terrible burden you carry being the only productive member of society. Obviously you have us all figured out...we've joined the group but we don't actually purchase any apps. Damn, and here I thought we'd get away with it. Of course you're right, symbolic gestures mean nothing. Nothing has ever been accomplished by taking a symbolic stand against something morally wrong. We're all horrible people for explicitly pledging to developers that we won't use cracked apps. You've seen through us all. How has this forum existed without your peerless intellect? Please, please, continue to grace us with your pearls of wisdom.
Are you actually suggesting that the group DOESN'T buy games? I'm pretty sure you are wrong. You do realize it is possible to be part of a group AND buy games, right? Is there something inherently wrong with a group feeling good about themselves and what they are doing? Your insight has no particular relevance because you joined the group as a mockery and outed yourself. You are IN the group, but you aren't a PART of the group. And that isn't ironic, unless you happen to listen to Alanis Morrisette.
That is just stupid MPAA propaganda. Downloading a pirated game is NOT the same as going into a store and taking it. When you shoplift a game, a company is losing money. It cost them money to print the disk, and package it, as well as ship it, and it costs the store, because they bought it from the manufacturer, and now lose it. When you download a game, the developer loses nothing except potential money from a potential customer who probably would not have purchased the game anyway.
No, those are your words, not mine. I never suggested or insinuated that members of this group don't buy games. What I said was that buying games does far more to help developers than clicking the "Join this group" button ever could. I'm sorry, but no one has been able to explain what this group actually does yet. Feeling good about oneself is fantastic, but don't delude yourself into thinking that by joining this group you have done anything at all to stop piracy. You clicked a "Join this group" button. THAT'S what you've done. Fortunately I don't need a TA group to help me feel good about myself for doing the right thing.
