The group is a way to raise awareness to the negative consequences of piracy. Why does it bother you that a group of people decided to speak up against piracy? Maybe there are people out there that read this discussion and think twice about their actions. It doesn't matter if you think the group is pointless, maybe you are a lost cause. That doesn't mean everyone that reads the forum is.
Yes, that's exactly how I feel! I don't understand what anyone here hopes to accomplish by clicking the "Join this group" button.
How about by having a thread on TA, posting regularly to it, discussing stories about piracy on the media, and having discussions with people like you? Do we have to know exactly how to solve a problem before we start talking about it? Is every effort suspect in your eyes (a way for people to feel better about themselves, as you put it) until it achieves measurable results? Have you actually ever tried to achieve change in society, or are you just happy sounding clever?
We're doing it right now Thanks for helping out. Piracy is wrong and people should realize that hard-working regular folks put time and effort into creating the apps and games that they steal when they pirate. If you're interested in a game or app, you should try the lite version or *buy* it; its wrong to just steal it. The signatures are just like when people stick those ribbons on their car. Raises awareness. Its not that complicated!
But you don't need to be in a "group" to do any of those things. Yes, but what does that have to do with this discussion? Raising awareness? That's really sweet, but being aware of a problem and taking action to fix it are two very different things. By way of example, more than 20 people were aware of what was happening in the alley behind that school in California, but none of them actually did anything about it. The point of raising awareness is generally to motivate people to take some sort of action. You know, wear a condom, don't leave your kids unattended in the car, donate money to a charity/cause, etc. Oh and for the record, there are no ribbons on my car.
Well, we're taking action right now by discussing it. I don't think anyone here thinks there's a way to stop piracy (I sure don't). But like I said above, raising awareness here in the forum just might convince some people to stop doing it because its wrong.
It doesn't hurt, and it might even help. Do you know for a fact that it's useless? Sounding clever, I see. Groups are known for motivating people to take action. Just because you can't imagine right now what kind of action this group could take doesn't mean that there won't be one. Frankly, I find your attempt to bring in that gang rape story into this discussion kind of disgusting, but let me take the bait: those 20 people may have "aware" that something was happening behind that school, but they were clearly unaware that it was wrong. Perhaps having a discussion about, or joining to a group concerned with violence against women may have made them aware of the proper behavior in that situation. Maybe then the outcome would have been different.
I think you misunderstand the meaning of the expression "take action." Merely discussing something is not even remotely the same as taking action about it.
Now THAT would be something to pat yourselves on the back about. Actually taking action to fix the problem, rather than merely giving yourselves a label and chatting. But I'm not holding my breath.
Ok I'll try to explain it again: *we* raise awareness, to hopefully *motivate* people to *buy* their apps rather than *stealing* them. What's wrong with the group again? Do you just like to argue semantics and pick apart individual sentences?
Well, discussing something is usually the prelude to purposeful, intelligent action. Check back in a few months. If this group hasn't come up with any new ideas to help with the problem of piracy, then feel free to contribute more cynical cleverness into the debate.
What debate? The debate about whether joining this "group" is absolutely useless or not? I think we've already established that. Anyway, you're right. I'll leave you guys to your anti-piracy chit-chat and I'll check back in a while to see if you actually accomplished anything meaningful. Cheers!
I'm failing to understand what you're fighting for here. If you don't think this group can make any difference then you've pretty much made that known to us all quite a few pages back. Why do u feel the need to repeat the same thing again and agian. What you're doing is just trolling. It's ok if u feel the group is worthless. That's your personal opinion. We feel it's the best effort individual members of our forums could do to raise our voice against piracy. If you have a better solution to this problem you're more than welcome to share that here. Otherwise I think you've pretty much made your point here and probably should leave this thread. No point in repeating the same thing unless trolling is your only concern in this thread.
To show some hidden truth to pirates that don't realize the harm they're doing. And therefore make their brain work a little more than "me wants, me takes."
Fine, and don't expect us to contact you before you find your "other option" is somehow "acting weirdly with no apparent reason".
It's just my opinion, maybe there are more jailbroken non-pirates but don't think that more than 25%. surely not. By the way I pirate too but only in games/ music and so on which I cannot buy anymore (old console games, rare records etc) but when it shows somewhere I usually buy it at any price.
From the developer of Punk Justice http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10395265-52.html Hopefully Apple will learn something from Microsoft before more developers have to quit.
