Vinyl Appreciation Thread

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  1. StarCraftIsGreat

    StarCraftIsGreat Well-Known Member

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    Because vinyl destroys CDs. Go go go!
     
  2. RttaM

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    This is possible your stupidest thread yet. Congratulations!
     
  3. StarCraftIsGreat

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    #3 StarCraftIsGreat, Aug 13, 2010
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    Explain, please! I don't understand why my thread is stupid.
     
  4. Cilo

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    #4 Cilo, Aug 13, 2010
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    Man I'll help you out since RttaM has sand in his crotch right now,

    There's Nothing To See Here It's All In Your Mind!
     
  5. SkyMuffin

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    I grew up in the 90s with CDs and then MP3s, so I've never actually owned a vinyl in my life. I suppose I will eventually have to if I ever want to be a real DJ. It's a dream i've always had.
     
  6. Cilo

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    Maybe one day you can build a huge collection like this guy

    [​IMG]
     
  7. starjimstar

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    I like vinyl! :D
     
  8. mobile1up

    mobile1up Well-Known Member

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    vinyl is great - will never die!

    there is a huge difference between CD and vinyl, namely because you are comparing analog to digital. a perfectly clean vinyl will always give better audio results; if you have the right stereo system that is. there is a reason why the best dj's in the world still use vinyl. as quoted from the following website:

    >> Vinyl uses a wider range of frequencies than CD does

    http://www.barbeaumusic.com/vinyl-vs-cd.html

    now the thread just got interesting - i grew up listening to music in the 80's - i owned vinyl.. i still do buy vinyls to place on my technics sl1210 turntable. i wish i had two of them and a mixer!
     
  9. LBG

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    I like throwing old vinyls and smashing them into a wall :)
     
  10. #10 Mindfield, Aug 13, 2010
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    Like Adrian, I grew up with vinyl. Unlike Adrian though I don't miss them. They were high maintenance (using a duster to remove dust before plating, replacing (expensive) needle cartridges every so often), and you had to treat them with kid gloves at all times, lest you introduce scratches into the recording.

    I converted all of my old vinyl to MP3s years ago -- and I had some fairly obscure stuff you can't really find these days, so I was happy. If they had a greater frequency range, I'm not really going to lament the fact. As much as I love quality (I always encode my MP3s at 320k) there's a point at which the compromise is worthwhile.

    Frankly though the best DJs still use vinyl because it's just easier. It's tactile and easy to manipulate for beatmatching and queueing. Frequency range (for most, anyway) isn't even a consideration, since the venues DJs play aren't exactly designed to preserve overtones even if they could be heard (these are clubs, not amphitheatres with top-notch acoustics).

    If someone is really, really concerned about preserving frequency range, they could always convert to MP3 at 24-bit/96KHz/512Kbit/s.
     
  11. sammysin

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    I've never experience music from a vinyl. Is the sound that different?
     
  12. Accounting for factors such as table rumble, dust in the grooves, and pops and clicks from scratches, not appreciably. On paper, vinyl was capable of capturing a wider range of sound than your average 16-bit/44.1KHz CD. In practice though you'd be hard pressed to find someone who'd be able to tell the difference in a blind sound test. Plus, music these days is typically mastered digitally at 96Khz/24-bit these days, which is far better than any vinyl can reproduce. Granted, it gets mixed down to 16/44 for CDs (and further degraded through lossy, compressed online digital distribution) so the more serious audiophiles may still turn up their noses at it, but in general, you won't be able to tell the difference.
     
  13. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's physically possible for humans to hear the difference between digital sound and records (which I assume is Vinyl).
     
  14. sammysin

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    Thanks for the reply guys. Damn, Mindfield, you know your stuff! (I am pretty sure I've read that you create music, so I'm guessing that's why ;P).
     
  15. SJP99

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    Ipod Touch game player person like thing????
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    I love Vinyl. they make good Frisbees
     
  16. sammysin

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    Hahaha, what a cheeky chap. One persons frisbee is another persons fortune.
     
  17. Yes, I do write music, and I master all of my stuff at 96/24 before rendering down to 44/16. Acoustically (to the average ear) it doesn't make a difference, but mastering at 96/24 captures overtones, some of which can still survive the mixdown, whereas mastering at lower levels may not capture as many of them. Plus, when you're dealing with compressed MP3s, the better your source material, the better it will sound when compressed.
     
  18. sid187

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    i too grew up with vinyl. and i do not miss them.. however, there is something special about all them old recordings from the 20s,30,s40s

    if you wanna hear some great old blues from the 20s,30s,40s.. the static from the records grows on you from these recordings..

    http://www.deltabluesmuseum.org/high/podcast.asp ( some of the songs are of adult nature.. be warned kiddies )

    but yeah i do not miss vinyl. i was all over tapes when they came out!!

    chris.
     
  19. MidianGTX

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    I think they're a big part of the reason some people prefer vinyl. It might distract from the "true" sound of the music but it sure is nostalgic. Reminds me of being about 5 years old and jumping around the house listening to my dad's music collection.
     
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