Will iDevices ever be the portable devices of choice for hardcore gamers?

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  1. SarcasticGamer

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    #61 SarcasticGamer, Feb 15, 2010
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    Ahem, GTACW has clocked me more than 50 hours already, same with COD:Z and the Settlers. And what about Eliminate? Can you give me one ds shooter with a players as persistent than those eliminate players? I tried to log in metroid and cod online on my ds and it was a ghost town.
     
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    RPG's like Inotia 2 and Zenonia take dozens of hours. The Quest with all the expansions can take 100-150 or even more. Battle for Wesnoth is hundreds of hours of TBS gameplay.
     
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    #63 Omega-F, Feb 15, 2010
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    So you are torturing yourself by playing FPS's on the iDevice? Good Lord.

    Again, those games are "good" for iPhone standards, but if you compare them to a real hardcore gaming franchise like Shin Megami Tensei, they do not hold a candle to it. That applies to pretty much any game on the app store.

    Driving games though are definitely superior on the iDevices, but that's not really saying much.
     
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    GTA:CW is not an FPS. You conveniently ignore that one.

    Arguing with you is no fun -- you keep changing the rules in the middle of the game.
     
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    #65 Omega-F, Feb 15, 2010
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    Is not an FPS, but it plays as bad.

    iPhone gamers have to realize this: someone who has other systems, is informed and has the ability to purchase games without a problem will never, ever trade their gaming time for an iPhone game. That's just the way things are.

    That's why all those "lol my consoles are gathering dust" consoles seem so phony to me. I find impossible to believe that someone would rather play a game with extremely awkward "virtual buttons" rather than something that has an actual physical control.

    Would I rather play Chinatown Wars on an iDevice instead of my DS? Hell no.

    There are some exceptions though, but they are so few it doesn't make a difference.
     
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    Honestly, why do you even post on this site? Just about every post I've ever seen from you is just trashing the iPhone/iPod.
     
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    Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey: Current combined critical score of 7.9
    GTA:CW: Current combined critical score of 9.3.

    I know nothing of Shin Megami Tensei, so I have no idea if I personally rate it above or below GTA:CW. But, clearly, most critics give the edge to GTA:CW.
     
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    #68 Omega-F, Feb 15, 2010
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    This commentary is so pathetic I can't even take it seriously. Go and analyze well your "critical scores" man.

    I think the iDevices are fantastic gadgets that can potentially have a great future. Go and read my comments about the games that I do consider good; I love them. Why do I love them? Because they are games that work on this platform. My standards are high, and that's why I'm not happy with whatever crappy "hardcore game" clon developers keep releasing on iPhone.
     
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    #69 SarcasticGamer, Feb 15, 2010
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    Hear this some of us only plays 'portable games whan we are away from home, on commute, on an office break, on the coffe shop et al. and the iphone is the only portable device that wont make me look like an overgrown child. And some of us actually feels FPS on the iphone works better than your psp where you work with face buttons for aiming. And most of us are good enough to adapt to new control schemes. And don't tell me owning all 3 systems can give a more valid opinon, I own all three two and almost every other handheld and home systems.
     
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    I'll ask again, why do you post here? Shouldn't you be spending time on your DS or other 15 consoles? You speak like your a superior gamer looking down on all the moron iPhone gamers, yet you have over 400 posts here.

    Regarding FPS games, the DS and PSP both have TERRIBLE FPS controls. Therefore, the iPhone is likely on par, if not better control wise.

    Regarding GTA, it's been a pretty large consensus that the iPhone version is pretty much equivalent in just about every aspect to the DS/PSP versions. Most people are doing just fine with the
     
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    Exactly. It honestly shouldn't matter, but a 26 year old sitting in a college class or in line at the grocery store or in the break room at the office with a PSP or DS is going to garner not so positive attention from others. Unfortunately the average person still does not seeing gaming as anything other than something kids do.

    For me the iPhone is a great supplement to my home consoles. It gives me some portable games to play while I'm in line, waiting for class to start and other various places on the go without looking like an idiot.
     
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    #72 squarezero, Feb 15, 2010
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    That pretty much encapsulates your argument right there. Your problem is that you lack the capacity to imagine anybody's experience but your own. Anybody who disagrees with you has to be "phony." That makes this argument simply pointless.
     
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    Australia, mate!
    The iDevice rules!
     
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    #74 Omega-F, Feb 15, 2010
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    Why do I post here? Because I feel there are some developers (TigerStyle, Super Squawk Software, the guys who made Hook Champ) that deserve to be supported, and like I said, if you read my comments about games from them, I praise them to death. They are the developers who get iPhone gaming.

    Saying that the iDevices are good platforms for FPS's is: 1) Not true, because the controls of, say, Moon for DS are absolutely superior in every regard and 2) is ultimately irrelevant because FPS's are simply not the type of game for a handheld.

    Yes, pretty much everything about GTA is the same as the other versions with the exception of something quite important; controls-- they simply can't even be compared to physical controls.
     
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    #75 Omega-F, Feb 15, 2010
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    Let me rephrase my sentence:

    Would someone who wants to experience good controls play GTA on an iDevice instead of a system with actual physical controls? Hell no.
     
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    Actually, the previous version was more convincing. And reveling.
     
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    I played moon too and it doesnt even come close to COD:Z but maybe it's because I can 'adapt' to different play styles and you can't.
     
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    Are you really "adapting" or just lowering your standards? :rolleyes:

    Hell, even PSP shooters like Resistance control better. Now are you going to say that you also played that game?
     
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    There is a difference between opinion and fact. Just because you don't like FPS games on a handheld doesn't mean this discussion is illrelevant. I don't care for FPS games overall, but at least in the US, FPS games are probaly the most popular genre for gaming overall right now. Just because me or you do not care much doesn't mean others don't as well.

    I've played GTA:CTW on my phone and have no issue with the controls. Many others have as well with no problem.
     
  20. SarcasticGamer

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    Lowering my standard? Hell no, in fact after playing COD:Z I HAVE to lower my standard to enjoy any psp shooter including Resistance. Face button aiming is NOT FUN!
     

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